Route GuidesRoutes City GuidesCities Map My

Rounting engine with steep hills

Friday 3 August
by Angstrom
in forum cycle.travel
Find a better bike route. Try our map & route-planner »

Hello. Firstly, hats off for a superb site and very useful routing engine. We used it in France very successfully over a 500 km touring trip between Auvergne and Périgord finishing in Agen.

However on a few occasions, the routing engine seemed to choose a route on small roads (which we normally much prefer)  but with a number of very steep hills (+140m) , over a (longer + 1 km over 6.4 km)) route with on what appeared on OSM as a major road. The computed time seemed to take only distance into consideration. The longer route was only downhill and obviously that extra km would have been quicker than the additional 140m of elevation. But the main issue was the steepness of the hills. A real pain.

So the request is really to have a routing rule that could take into consideration the steepness of the route and also not ruling out major roads totally when they make sens and it's not long.

I understand this is in reality a complex request, but thought I'd share it anyway.

I think the lesson here is to use tools for what they are and agree, as users, to spend some time to study routes a bit better, using the fantastic tools you provide. In my case, a bit more time spent would have allowed me to spt what we were up to and I could have made the decision myself.

Comments

Thu 23 Aug 2018, 13:44

Glad you had a great ride!

The router does try to penalise steep hills but, as ever, it’s a matter of degree and I might not have got the balance quite right. Could you share an example or two so I can have a go at tweaking it?

Wed 7 Nov 2018, 17:52

Hi Richard,

Sorry I did not see your response.

Here is the segment that I thought could be improved (very steep hills): wym-1541612825029

Here is a better route, IMO, without steep hills and a short distance on a rather big, but still D road. :wym-1541612868356

Thanks for looking into this Richard.

By the way if/when you want to give a shot at translating into French, just shout. ;-)

Your stuff is simply better than anything out there. I volunteer to promote it and moderate French speaking users. You could (should) offer the IGN mapping in France, as most French users really like it better. For low trafic, it's free to use. For higher trafic, you can have users pay. They will if it's reasonable (I do on VisuGPX).

Cheers,

Vincent